Victor Tey and the Church in Punchbowl – New IFB Controversy

Edit: Since January 6, 2019, “the church in Punchbowl” has now been renamed “The church in Liverpool.”

Victor Tey is the pastor of the Church in Punchbowl, New South Wales, Australia. Is he a part of the New IFB? Almost a decade ago, he moved to The US for a year to attend Faithful Word Baptist Church. He left on moderately good terms, and now he’s on shaky ground.

First, he agrees with the main points of the New IFB. He opposes salvation repentance, is anti-Israel, doesn’t accept dispensationalism, is Pre-Wrath rapture, etc. The notable exception is that Tey refuses to label those who disagree as unsaved, something he is now decrying the New IFB for doing, as preachers such as Logan Robertson are now labeling him as unsaved.

The reason he is being labeled as unsaved is because he holds a non-Orthodox view of the trinity. His view is that God is both one person, and also three persons. He accepts that his view is unorthodox in his video where he calls out Logan Robertson for being a railer.

He was shown to have this unorthodox view after the recent controversy at Faithful Word Baptist Church, in which Andrew Sluder, Garrett Kirchway, Dominique Davis, Rick Martinez and Elliot Ray and Tyler Baker were all removed from the church for their view of the trinity, which Steven Anderson (correctly) recognized to be unorthodox.

While the controversy brewed Tey preached a message on the trinity, after which Pastor Anderson released a video calling him a modalist heretic. After Tey clarified his views, Anderson took the video down, but upon Tey’s request for further apology and after Tey posted several videos (1,2,3) explaining his history with Faithful Word Baptitst Church, Anderson doubled down, made the video public again, and uploaded a video calling Tey A Liar. Tey responded to this video as well.

The controversy has continued to brew, and just two days ago, Tey uploaded a new video calling out New IFB pastor Pastor Logan Robertson of Pillar Baptist in Queensland Australia for falsely railing against him. In this video Tey is adamant that his position on the trinity is the same as Roger Jimenez’s position. (Tey explains how his position is the same as Jimenez and different from the other four men in this video. He also explains why neither position is modalism.) Robertson’s main defense in calling Tey unsaved is his view of the Trinity, though he does throw many other things around as well.

Notably, Tey seems to reject the New IFB movement, with the title of this latest video containing the words “New IFB Bad Fruit” at the end of the title. So The New IFB rejects Tey, and Tey seems to reject them, but in practice, his church is very much New IFB in that he believes most all of their distinctives, but does seem to now be disenchanted with Steven Anderson.

Post Author: Joshua Lindsey

My name is Joshua Lindsey. I live in Minnesota, and with my wife and children am a faithful member of my local independent Baptist Church. I have taught Sunday School classes and children’s classes, and also had the opportunity to preach at several churches. I teach Bible college classes on the Pentateuch, Atheism and Faith, Chrsitian Denominations, Bible Preservation (A defense of the underlying texts of the KJV), Bible Geography and Customs, Church Graphic Design, and some others. My father is an Independent Baptist Pastor in Wisconsin, and I grew up in a home full of love for the Lord. My parents raised me in the Bible, and are faithful to this day in witnessing and discipling. Although I was constantly immersed in biblical teaching and preaching, I did not personally believe in Jesus as described in John 3:16 until my freshman year in Bible college. In the many years since then, I have grown in grace and the Lord has given me opportunity to serve him in ministry. Among other ministries, I run my church’s print shop and participate in door-to-door evangelism. In doctrine, I affirm the truth that has been passed down from church to church since the time of Christ. I affirm the deity of Christ, his death, burial, and bodily resurrection, the personhood of the Holy Spirit, the Trinity, the virgin birth, the inerrancy and infallibility of the scriptures, the inspiration and preservation of the scriptures, the imminent return of Christ and his future literal millennial reign. I accept the canonicity of the 66 books of scripture, I believe that God commands all men to repent, that Christ draws all men to himself, that any person can believe and be saved. I believe salvation cannot be forfeited or taken away. I believe Christ’s command to go to all the world and preach the Gospel is still applicable to us today. I believe in a future literal judgment seat of Christ and a Great white throne judgment. I believe that no person will enter heaven except through Jesus Christ. I reject all false religions: Islam, Judaism, new Age, etc. I reject the teaching that God elects some men to damnation, giving them no chance to be saved. I reject the idea that God did not preserve his words and that recent manuscript discoveries provide us with a more accurate Bible that was not available to past generations of Christians. I reject the concept of a universal church. I reject the idea that Baptism plays a part in salvation. I believe many things additionally not listed here. My views align with the scripture and with the beliefs that faithful churches have held since the time of Christ, and have held under the title of “Baptist” for many centuries now.

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