Aaron Thompson and Sure Foundation Baptist Church in Vancouver Washington have now announced a new church plant in Vancouver, BC. Canada. The teaching here will be “New IFB” which is a compromising position against historic independent Baptist teaching.
Below are clips from the sermon where Thompson announced the new church plant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWTqhlW-Exw
What is the New IFB?
In 2005, Steven L Anderson started Faithful Word Baptist Church, and began teaching a new and strange set of doctrines. With his charismatic personality and boldness in preaching his opinions, as well as an effective social media strategy, he has won many over to himself. He is admittedly attempting to change what it means to be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Many have caught on, but some are still being convinced by his errors.
In 2018, the churches that follow Anderson branded themselves as the New IFB. Each preacher follows in lockstep with Pastor Anderson, and if they don’t they risk being kicked out. When members leave Faithful Word Baptist Church, Anderson brands them not only as unsaved and going to hell, but also as “reprobate”, which in Anderson’s theology means that they cannot ever get saved. They are bound to go to hell without a chance to change that. Pastors who leave the movement or upset Anderson are blacklisted, all mention of them is purged from the New IFB denomination’s website, and pastors within the movement are encouraged to preach against them and post videos discrediting them and criticizing their preaching. Often the same pastors who once criticized others who left the new IFB find themselves also leaving the New IFB and receiving the same treatment.
So what does the New IFB believe? There are several unique beliefs that Anderson holds to, which, as a result are part of New IFB doctrine.
Note: not every pastor or person mentioned on this website believes all of these doctrines, nor do all of them claim to be part of the New IFB. These are doctrines that are widely preached however.
First, they preach another gospel than Independent Fundamental Baptists do.
- The New IFB preaches that Jesus death and resurrection was not enough to save from sin. Instead, Jesus had to go and burn in hell where he paid for our sin there. (So much for “it is finished!”)
- The New IFB preaches that for certain people, they are unsaved, regardless of their faith in Jesus Christ. In other words, for these people, salvation is not by grace through faith. See below:
| Faithful Independent Baptists Teach: | The New IFB teaches: |
| ►The KJV is the preserved word of God in English | ►Pastors who use the NIV are not saved ► You cannot get saved out of any Bible except the King James Version |
| ►The Bible is sufficient for a person to learn about salvation and be saved | ►Nobody can get saved by reading the Bible. There must be a soul winner. If that person themselves is not saved (such as a pastor who uses the NIV) none of their converts can truly be saved either |
| ►Women should not be pastors | ►Women who are preachers are all not saved |
| ►Anyone who believes on Jesus Christ may be saved | ►Homosexuals cannot believe on Christ and be saved. Salvation is not open for them, even if they leave homosexuality. Even if they believe on Christ, they will go to hell ►Evolutionary scientists are also reprobate (they cannot be saved no matter what) |
| ►Salvation is by faith alone | ►If you leave the New IFB movement, you are not saved ► If you disagree with the New IFB movement, you are not saved |
Second, the New IFB preaches many things as scriptural doctrine, which are not in the Bible, nor have been taught by Independent Fundamental Baptists in the past. These include:
- Being in the US Military is a Sin
- The police should not exist
- The 9/11 attacks were a hoax
- Christians should not vote
- It is sinful to be vaccinated
- The holocaust did not happen
- Israel should not exist
- Jews run everything and ruin everything
- We should rejoice in mass shootings or other murders when the victims are people we consider to be reprobates (such as homosexuals)
- We should pray for people to go to hell
- God laughs at sending people to hell
- People who get saved will not change
- People need not repent to be saved
- Charging interest is always sinful
- Having a nursery at a church is wrong
- Having Sunday School is wrong
- Jesus Christ is literally the King James Bible. The King James Bible is literally God.
- Bible College is unscriptural and wrong
- Christians are supposed to keep the Old Testament Law
- If you use the name “Yeshua” instead of Jesus, you aren’t saved
- Men being gynecologists is sinful and wicked
- The rapture is not imminent/ Christ cannot come at any time
- Any and all forms of birth control are sinful
- We should hope God kills people we dislike such as John MacArthur or James White
- The Lord’s Supper shouldn’t be held at church
Some of the root differences between the New IFB and Independent Baptists come from the fact that they believe in replacement theology, and so take the Old Testament Laws given to the nation of Israel and apply them to New Testament Believers today. (This is what Calvinist Covenant Theology does as well) As a result of this, any understanding of the Bible that divides the Bible into parts that are “for Christians today” and other parts that are “not for Christians today” are rejected. This leads to them calling for so-called “righteous government” to be established that mirrors the Theocracy of Israel, executing people for the same capital crimes, such as blasphemy, disobedience to parents, and homosexuality. They then reject any prophetic purpose for Jews or Israel, apply Old Testament “clean and unclean” laws on Christians, and end up with a post-tribulation Rapture.
Additionally, Steven Anderson and his followers use lots of crass language, say the Bible teaches that men should urinate standing up, and preach a lot of conspiracies (like chemtrails and water fluoridation conspiracies)
The video below contains 50+ examples of Anderson’s corrupt communication. Click here for the transcript.
For an excellent and short presentation which shows the cultlike and non-Baptist nature of the New IFB and Steven Anderson, watch the video below:
1. Matthew 24:30 2. Malachi 3:6 3. romans 10:9-17 4. God, a perfect being repenting Jeremiah 18:8, 10 Jonah 3:10 Exodus 32:14 Genesis 6:6 Psalm 135:14 Jeremiah 26:3, 13, 19 Joel 2:14 Amos 7:3-6 I’m sure just reading the bible you could find more. 5. Romans 1 and Leviticus 20:13 6. no one is denying the holocaust just saying the worlds view is a lie as Steven Anderson explains in your link. Matthew 27:25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children. (denial if the only name that can save you) Acts… Read more »
Sorry Richard, but your post looks just like a article on the Encyclopedia of Mormonism. They just list a chain of verses that they claim prove their doctrine, but they don’t. Anyone can do that.
Well if you were saved you would be able to understand scripture and would have known those are KJV bible scriptures from Gods perfect preserved word and God is never wrong.
Funny you mentioned the false religion of Mormonism. Even they used more scripture than you did in this article to prove your point.
Maybe you should listen to God and compare spiritual things with spiritual.
1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
Richard, declaring people unsaved because you disagree with them is what a babe in Christ does. Your comment shows a lack of understanding. I know the Bible is always right. But Richard Sousa’s misuse of the Bible and scripture twisting is not. So let us discuss my salvation. I believe that all men are sinners. I have sinned and come short of the glory of God. God demands that sinners pay with their lives for sin – eternal death in the lake of fire. But Christ died in our place, in my place so that I could through faith alone… Read more »
see the problem with what you just said is you contradict what you already said about salvation repentance. salvation repentance is works and anyone who believes on works salvation is not saved. so I am still right your not saved. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. also, For by grace are ye saved through faith;… Read more »
Can a person believe in Mohammed for salvation and still be saved? If they just add Jesus are they saved? Or must they repent of believing in Mohammed. I guess you think Muslims can add Jesus on top of Mohammed. No. The Bible tells us we must repent of the sin of trusting someone other than Christ. If you disagree, you don’t believe in trust in Jesus alone being a required for salvation.
I figured you would twist my words just like you did the bible. Is Mohammad a false gospel? try reading my last paragraph again. Believe in the right Gospel or you believe in a false gospel and are still unsaved. Look guy, you say repent of your sins which it never says to do in the bible. The bible uses the word repent for changing your mind just like God did in the book of Jonah. Repenting of your sins is impossible because no one can turn from all sin. If you are just explaining yourself wrong I understand but… Read more »
Richard, Is believing in a false Gospel sinful? Can you continue to believe in a false gospel and be saved? No, you must repent. Is worshipping an idol sinful? Can you continue to worship the idol and be saved? No you must repent.
Your claim that anyone needs to turn away form sin is a straw man. I never said anything about “turn away” from”all sin.” that is just a position the New IFB rails against that isn’t taught by 95% of Baptists. I see you too have not done any research, just repeating what you’ve been brainwashed with.
Actually no worshiping and idle does not mean you’re not saved it means you’re disobedient. Solomon, who worshipped many idols went to heaven. He didn’t just worship them he made them and put them on high. You see, all the things that I’ve been saying are backed by scripture which I keep on giving you but yet you have no scripture in any of your comments or in any of your posts. Only false prophets and wolf’s do that. Your Second paragraph makes no sense. My research? You just numbered a bunch of garbage you believe in what research would… Read more »
Richard, I am glad you have at least formulated a consistent argument. Here it is: You reject that a person must believe in Christ alone for salvation. It is OK in your view for them to trust in idols too. I disagree. In that view, the catholic is saved who trusts in Christ + Mary + Works. But that is OK! You don’t believe in repentance! The Solomon example doesn’t work because that is an after-salvation case. And no reason to ramble on the tribulation etc. right now. We have a topic, let’s stick to it. It’s a dishonest method… Read more »
No what is dishonest is when I give you scripture from the Bible and you refuse to even read it and say that it sounds like Mormonism. What’s the dishonest is calling us all Heretics for preaching the wrong Doctrine without any proof or scripture. You’re the one beating around the bush you’re the one without nothing to prove your side. Quit being an idiot you don’t want to talk about tribulation because you know you’re wrong you don’t want to answer the Original Scriptures that I posted because you know they’re right and you’re wrong. You want to keep… Read more »
No what is dishonest is when I give you scripture from the Bible and you refuse to even read it and say that it sounds like Mormonism. I have read the scripture. They do not say what you claim they say. You misuse the Bible like Mormonism does. You said Quit being an idiot you don’t want to talk about tribulation because you know you’re wrong you don’t want to answer the Original Scriptures that I posted because you know they’re right and you’re wrong We can discuss the tribulation, but it’s not nearly as important as the false gospel… Read more »
First off I don’t believe you at all that you’ve read any of the scripture. If you have you deny what God says cuz I didn’t twist anything I just gave you a scripture to read and it says what it says. Tribulations only one of the many false doctrines you guys believe in. So don’t pretend that that some sort of decoy. You believe in a lot of phony garbage. You say I can’t biblically defend which I’ve given you scripture after scripture so therefore I have been biblically defending. You on the other hand still have yet to… Read more »
First off I don’t believe you at all that you’ve read any of the scripture. This statement just shows how far off you are from reality. But I am glad you posted it. It shows you don’t care about truth, only to try to make an argument. But it isn’t an effective one. Tribulations only one of the many false doctrines you guys believe in. What? You don’t believe in the Tribulation period? You claim all these things that your movements been doing for years upon years or decades I don’t belong to any “movement.” I follow the Bible. You… Read more »
This statement just shows how far off you are from reality. But I am glad you posted it. It shows you don’t care about truth, only to try to make an argument. But it isn’t an effective one. no it just shows that I don’t believe you. I believe Jesus. What? You don’t believe in the Tribulation period? Another twisting of what I said especially after I gave you Matthew 24 twice. I don’t belong to any “movement.” I follow the Bible. Really, because I’m pretty sure that you claimed old ifb or else this and all the other post… Read more »
Here is what you said, Mr. Sousa. Your very words. I didn’t twist anything: I didn’t twist anything I just gave you a scripture to read and it says what it says. Tribulations only one of the many false doctrines you guys believe in. So don’t pretend that that some sort of decoy. So when you say that I twisted your words, that is lie #1 in your last comment. Earlier you wrote “First off I don’t believe you at all that you’ve read any of the scripture.” In response, I said “This statement just shows how far off you… Read more »
Tribulations only one of the many false doctrines you guys So your pointing out that I didn’t type in the word pre at the beginning of the sentence. Ok, so what complain about a typo. Still, not a lie. This is also a typo that you did but I didn’t get petty about it like your doing. I did so, and Gid promises that those who do so will never spiritually die. There is no such thing as “Old IFB.” That is a term made up by the New IFB movement. The true churches that Christ founded are not a… Read more »
Richard, I am sorry but I can’t understand most of your post. Also, apparently everything you say is either you claiming I believe something, and having to backtrack and then blaming me for it when you are found to have lied, or you saying something and then claiming it was a misspelling or misstatement. Look, doctrine is a precise, fine thing, and if you can’t help but actually type heresies, maybe you should leave the defense to someone else. I will address your last statement. If you think the statement that someone who truly gets saved won’t stop trusting in… Read more »
you are the biggest lier lol Im done with you and your claims. everything you have said is backwards and I don’t have to dispute it at all because any saved Christian can see it. so long wolf. God has been growing our church pretty fast so you better think of a different way to teach your false doctrine before they all run to our churches. ta ta
There is is. Richard Sousa will say all he can until he realizes he has to speak up against his idol, Steven L Anderson. Then he just tries to quietly sneak out the back door with his disproved arguments.
We will just leave this thread of comments here so all can see how you pretend to care about the scriptures until you find them inconvenient.
Steve Anderson isn’t my idol but he is a good man unlike you trying to be a wolf but anybody who reads these posts will know that you are. Please do keep these up I want everybody to see them in fact you can post these anywhere you want. Just because you called me a liar doesn’t mean I am and if you read these posts you’ll see that you are the liar and that I’ve been telling the truth the entire time if you read the Bible you’ll get the same thing you’re a wolf and a loser
Steven Anderson and I agree that you can’t stop believing once you are saved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DezeWpLJa0M
Richard Sousa thinks this is works salvation.
Well I guess the Bible’s lying when Solomon was clearly saved and went in and worship idols and put them on the highest mountain. Look you can twist it however you want Solomon, neberkenezer, Saul, and many other kings and Nations got saved and then worship idols which is not trusting in Jesus alone. At one time all of them believed in Jesus alone. But they all fell short of the glory of God just like everybody. If the Bible says it, it’s true and the Bible says all the above so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Nobody, including those mentioned in your post, has believed in Christ for salvation and stopped believing.
Steven Anderson and I agree that you can’t stop believing once you are saved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DezeWpLJa0M
Richard Sousa thinks this is works salvation.
By the way you just commented that you believe everything that they said in that video. So you believe exactly like Steve Anderson and all the rest of those people that you posted up above. So now you’re confirming that their brothers in Christ. Yet you are unforgiving and causing strife among your Brothers by putting posts like this up. I guess you can’t be forgiven since you haven’t forgiven them.
Richard, poor doctrine has led you to poor logic. Because I agree with Anderson on one sermon does not mean I believe him on everything else. Let’s see your logic below: By the way you just commented that you believe everything that they said in that video. So you believe exactly like Steve Anderson and all the rest of those people that you posted up above. Your logic: If you agree with a person on one thing, you believe exactly like them on everything. So now you’re confirming that their brothers in Christ. Your logic: If you agree with a… Read more »
Wrong again that’s not my logic I said you agreed with them on salvation. If you agree with them on salvation then you believe that they are saved as well. Which makes them your brother.
Again just like a wolf you trying to twist what I say just like you do with the Bible.
Richard, read your own comment. You didn’t even use the word “Salvation.” And nowhere did I ever state that I agree with them on salvation. I said I agree with the video, which touches on a very narrow part of salvation – the part you disagree with.
Steven Anderson and I agree that you can’t stop believing once you are saved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DezeWpLJa0M
Richard Sousa thinks this is works salvation.
Joshua, first off I don’t believe everything that Steven Anderson believes a majority of it I do but I read the Bible daily in season out of season here a little there a little. I also have my own pastor I don’t need Steve Anderson to guide me because I have my own Pastor to guide me so you showing videos of Steve Anderson and other people like Matthew Stuckey doesn’t do anything. Second Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that… Read more »
Richard,
I don’t go on blogs online to defend people who believe in works salvation. The fact you do come here and defend Steven Anderson when you think he teaches a works salvation means that you lack integrity in spiritual matters.
That is a great verse. I have marked and avoided Anderson for his false teaching.
And I have marked and avoided you for your faults teachings you heretic. Now if you dont mind you are cutting into my bible reading.